Oh, to Know the Lord!

Hosea 4:6a: “My people are being destroyed because they don’t know me.”
Some groups reference this verse to say that people lack knowledge of God’s Word, and that’s why they don’t get what they want from God (healing, for example). This may be a legitimate understanding of the verse. These groups point to versions which read, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” However, I believe the New Living is a better reading because God gave us His Word so we could get to know Him and have relationship with Him.
In Hosea’s call to repentance, he says, “Oh, that we might know the Lord! Let us press on to know him. He will respond to us as surely as the arrival of dawn or the coming of rains in early spring.” (Hosea 6:3)
And God says in Hosea 6:6 , “I want you to show love, not offer sacrifices. I want you to know me more than I want burnt offerings.”
BIBLE-01-open    God shows His loving character in Hosea 5 by promising to do what it takes to get Israel to return to Him where He can help and bless them. He says, “I will be like a lion to Israel, like a strong young lion to Judah. I will tear them to pieces! I will carry them off, and no one will be left to rescue them. Then I will return to my place until they admit their guilt and turn to me. For as soon as trouble comes, they will earnestly search for me.” (Hosea 5:14-15)
Hosea 14 contains God’s wonderful promise of healing for the repentant people: “Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, for your sins have brought you down. Bring your confessions, and return to the Lord. Say to him, ‘Forgive all our sins and graciously receive us, so that we may offer you our praises.’ …The Lord says, ‘Then I will heal you of your faithlessness; my love will know no bounds, for my anger will be gone forever.’”
(Hosea 14:1-2, 4)
Oh that we might know this loving, faithful God who wants us to develop relationship with Him! And these days we have not only accurate Bible translations to help us do that, but also we have God’s own Son Jesus who reveals His Father, and the Holy Spirit who leads us into truth. As Hosea says, let us press on to know Him! (See also Hebrews 1:1-2 and John 16:12.)
(All quotes  New Living Translation.)

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8 responses to “Oh, to Know the Lord!

  1. Hi Tricia, I’m trying to catch up after having had Blog and Computer problems once again but I’m using Firefox now and so far all is ok , I’m sorry if I have missed any of your Posts, they are always a challenge and they get me pondering, I will have a look before I go.

    Your message has Truth, God is indeed a Loving God but so many do not understand Him but some seek to which is what He asks us to do with all our heart, there is only one way that we can really know Him and that is by Jesus indwelling us, and so having asked, we have His wisdom through the empowering of The Holy Spirit , (see below) no translation alone can do it for us, all have man’s error, even the K.J.V which is closest to the original, of course unlike the Cults deception their errors are not meant to deceive but God will show us man’s error, we don’t have to worry about them.

    1 Corinthians 2:9-16 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that Love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with Spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are Spiritually discerned. But he that is Spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the Mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? but we have the Mind of Christ.

    God keeps His Truth pure in the hearts and minds of His redeemda Children, we have His Spirit within which the Old Testament Saints didn’t but like us they still had Him working in their lives and they had the promise but we have the reality in Christ Jesus.

    Lamentations 3: 33 For God doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.

    Hosea 5 I will be like a lion to Israel, like a strong young lion to Judah. I will tear them to pieces! I will carry them off,

    There are no contradictions in Scripture only how man reads them, without the Spirit we can’t understand God’s Truth , Jesus tells us if we ask we receive if we don’t we won’t.

    God cannot intervene in our lives if we choose to sin or ignore Him and He will not force us to Love and obey Him, so if we continue to sin we will reap what we sow and He created us this way but for good not bad, so do we blame Him if we suffer? His discipline, is time out, He sees sinners from afar, but like the Prodigal son it is to bring us to our senses so we will have heart repentance, if we don’t have heart repentance, our sin will tear us apart.

    Christian Love from both of us – Anne

  2. Hi Anne,
    Thank you for your comments. I don’t know your reasons for believing that the KJV is closest to the original, but my reading indicates that the NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE and the ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION are both closer than it is. In any case, it is as you said, that God’s Holy Spirit in us enables us to understand His truth.
    Blessings,
    Tricia

    • Hi Trisia, I thought I would check it out for you because I didn’t remember the dates, but as you can see below with the Translations, the oldest and closest to the Original it the King James Version , the meaning of words change over time and new words are introduced.

      But also in your Translations and many others, an important Scripture has been omitted. (1John 5:7 ) this is not only confirmation of the Godhead or Trinity as we call Them today which other Scriptures confirm but also confirmation that the Translations who omit this verse are in error, they have Translated by hearsay and not The Holy Spirit, as the Link below confirms and there are other websites of the Internet that agree with this.
      http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/1john57-exegesis.htm

      How can we be sure this Link is not in error, only as we Trust in the empowering of the Holy Spirit as Jesus leads us into all Truth. Jesus lead me to this Scripture even before I knew it was controversial and confirmed it with others and there are more then theses ones ( Isaiah 9: 6 – Colossians 2:9 – John 1:1 – Genesis 1:26 -1 Corinthians 8:5-7 -1Corinthians2. 9-16. ) but this link will give you proof that this verse was deleted in error from a lot of Translations, in Truth only a few in comparison are faithful to preserve this verse but we know when one is in error many copy until much error is passed on . If you would like me to share some other Scriptural errors just let me know.
      Translations …..

      The NASB is a revision of the American Standard Version of 1901. This translation was an alternative to the Revised Standard Version (1946–1952/1971),

      The English Standard Version (ESV) is an English Translation of the Christian Bible It is a revision of the 1971 edition of the Revised Standard Version.

      The King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.

      Christian Love Always – Anne

      • Thank you for clarifying why you believe the KJV to be the only accurate translation of the Bible. There are many people who agree with you. I don’t believe that way. I believe that God can communicate with people in any language He chooses. He can reveal His truth through modern American (or British if you prefer) language just as easily as He can through King James 17th century English, and sometimes better. I further believe we need to encourage, rather than discourage, the reading and studying of understandable Bible translations which are faithful renderings of the original Greek and Hebrew texts. We should do this so more people will come to know God and those who know Him will know Him better..
        Apparently by “closest to the original,” you mean “closest in time.” But there were earlier translations of the Bible, just none authorized by King James. By “closest to original,” I mean “closest in faithfulness to the meaning of the original Greek and Hebrew.” As to 1 John 5:7, it is often included in footnotes and isn’t in the earliest manuscripts.

  3. Yes I agree with you Tricia in that we need to study God’s Truth in His written word but my focus was, we also that we need Jesus The Living Word to lead and teach us.

    But it was you who said in reference to the K.J.V that the …..NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE and the ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION are both closer than it is. I also said that the K.J.V has error too but mostly all accepted Translations do but not to deceive us although Cults versions do this but the others are man’s error, which God will show us.

    I was trying to correct your error in saying the others were closer to the original in time, with the K.J.V because it is closer there is less chance of man’s errors being added but what is important regardless of the Translation and you agreed with this Tricia and it is what Jesus said to the Pharisees, that even though they diligently studied the Scriptures , they did not accept Him, which is what they are all about. Without The Holy Spirit they are just words which we can read wrongly, even without Translation error, this is why we need God’s wisdom as we are empowered and lead by Jesus into all knowledge and understanding.

    Without Him man’s error happens as we can see in another Translation which I will share if you want me to but I never said that we are not to read God’s inspired written word regardless of the Translation but that we do so with His understanding because we are to Trust Him for accuracy not man. Yes we can learn from others but we confirm what they share with God’s Truth as He leads us and we correct if needed using it.

    I John 5:7 was in the Original Greek as proven by the confirmation of the other Scriptures that I gave you and the Link, if it was not there then the rest of the verse that is included in other Translations and the ones you mentioned does not make sense … we ask and receive this is what Jesus’ promises us.

    Christian Love from both of us – Anne

    • I want to clarify that I did NOT say that other translations were closer in time to the original than the KJV. I misunderstood your statement that the KJV was closest to the original. I thought you meant that it was closest to the original in translation of the meaning. I understand that you believe that there is less chance of human error in earlier translations. I believe there is less chance of human error with translators who are translating from the original Greek and Hebrew rather than from other translations. The KJV was written to unify two versions which the Church of England at that time was using. (Consider the article at http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/worlds-best-selling-book/2011/jul/2/king-james-bible-best-english-translation/ .)
      I’m sorry that I misunderstood your focus–that we need Christ in us to understand the Scriptures, which I do agree with.
      Blessings,
      Tricia

      • All the Translations Tricia claim they are based on the original Greek and Hebrew and so are the closest in accuracy to them, including the K.J.V and this is regardless of where they originated or who Translated them.

        In the K.J.V , there are differences from modern translations that are not based on manuscript differences, but on a different understanding of Ancient Hebrew and Greek vocabulary or grammar by the translators, one common difference is small particles and meaning of words which have changed over time.

        As we know for the last 40+ years every few years a new Bible is Translated that claims to “finally” translate the words of God into our “everyday language” so we can understand God’s truth but after 200+ English versions there is still errors and many differences in understanding, which has caused division.

        God is a God of Unity not division but the argument continues who has the best Translation and Satan laughs.

        God’s Truth is written on our hearts and minds and God keeps His word pure in Christ Jesus who is The Living Word, we will know the Truth. ( 2 Corinthians 3:2-4 ) ( 2 Corinthians 4:5-7)

        We both agree Tricia without the empowering of the Holy Spirit (see below ) as Jesus teaches us through His wisdom, regardless of which Translation is used there will be no real understanding and without God’s Love no acceptance of His Truth.

        1 Corinthians 2:9-16 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that Love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with Spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are Spiritually discerned. But he that is Spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the Mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? but we have the Mind of Christ.

        John 15:14-15 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.(KJV)

        Matthew 10:26-28 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops (KJV)

        Isaiah 55:3 Incline your ear and come unto me: hear and your soul shall live.

        Christian Love from us both – Anne

      • Anne, I disagree with your first statement–that “all” the translations claim to be based on the original manuscripts. However, I think this discussion has gone on long enough. Since this is my blog, I’m choosing to end this conversation.
        Christian love,
        Tricia

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